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Time magazine interview with President-elect Obama, in which he briefly discussed the Kashmir issue is troubling Indian strategic analysts this week. And while I am an Obama supporter, I agree with the Indian analysts on these issues. Here is what Mr. Obama said:
[Barack Obama] ... So, building a different relationship with the Pakistani government, the Pakistani military, the ISI. Working with Pakistan, this government to deliver for its people so it gains legitimacy, in all regions of the country. Working with Pakistan and India to try to resolve, and Kashmir, crisis in a serious way. Those are all critical tasks for the next administration. Kashmir in particular is an interesting situation where that is obviously a potential tar pit diplomatically. But, for us to devote serious diplomatic resources to get a special envoy in there, to figure out a plausible approach, and essentially make the argument to the Indians, you guys are on the brink of being an economic superpower, why do you want to keep on messing with this? To make the argument to the Pakistanis, look at India and what they are doing, why do you want to keep on being bogged down with this particularly at a time where the biggest threat now is coming from the Afghan border? I think there is a moment where potentially we could get their attention. It won’t be easy, but it’s important.
From the Indian perspective, the Kashmir issue is a dispute between India and Pakistan (notably neither the Indians nor the Pakistanis see it as a three way dispute involving the indigenous voice of all the Kashmiri people). The Indian government lost its faith in a UN brokered solution in the early days of the conflict. The US also came to be seen as unhelpful and untrustworthy after the first time it was brought in as an "honest broker."
The real problem expressed by President-elect Obama, in the eyes of Indian analysts, is that he appears to have already mentally succumbed to blackmail by Pakistan. In other words, Mr. Obama's outlook seems to give in to Pakistani pressure for a resolution to the Kashmir issue in a quid pro quo exchange for their cooperation in the war on terrorism. Given that elements in the Pakistani intelligence services have openly funded ruthless terrorist organizations and backed the Taliban since the mid-nineties, this is a rather serious lapse in the President-elect's judgment. If the Pakistani government did genuinely renounce terrorism in 2002, then it should provide support against militants unconditionally. An end to Pakistan's reliance on militants will make the Indian government more likely to work for a negotiated solution to the dispute, and some fresh thinking on the issue has emerged since 2002.
In my opinion, President-elect Obama is mistaken in his belief that the Kashmir dispute is at the heart of the militancy problem in the region. The underlying problems are actually much more complex, they are the product of inadequate nation and state formation in Pakistan after the 1947 Partition and again after the 1971 Civil War. India's (occasionally brutal) domination of Srinagar is mainly used as an excuse which serves to provide the semblance of a coherent national project and purpose for the state and people of Pakistan. (There are actually strong parallels here between the Palestinian issue and the overstated states of the Middle East.) Western politicians prefer to imagine that regional instability can be solved through a peace accord and a ceremonial handshake. However, actually fixing the root problem, i.e. tackling the issue of nation and state re-building after some false starts, may take decades of grassroots effort and the harshest reality is that some post-colonial states may simply not be feasible or "fixable" in their current parameters. (Of course, none of this should be seen as excusing the violation of human rights by Indian counter-insurgency forces in Kashmir).
The interview continues:
[Q] Sounds like a job for Bill Clinton.
[BO] Might not be bad. I actually talked to Bill, I talked to President Clinton about this when we had lunch in Harlem.
This is wishful thinking. While former President Clinton remains popular in India for his accomplishment of setting a new course in Indo-American relations in 2000, he simply does not have the stature to act as a Special Envoy on the Kashmir issue. His administration achieved the success that it did, by learning to butt out of issues that it did not understand and to listen to the local actors instead of trying to force a solution to regional problems.
At the end of the day, the President-elect will need to keep in mind that the relationship with India is multifaceted. America is hoping to rely on India as an integral part of its soft containment policy (although this does not mean that India will let itself be used as a cat's paw) and the US has growing economic ties to India. Mr. Obama will need to do more listening and less dreaming about dangerous places to send Bill Clinton.
The interview continues...
[Q] …Should we be talking to the Taliban? I don’t mean you.
[BO] You know, I think that this is one useful lesson that is applicable from Iraq. The Great Awakening, the Sunni Awakening changed the dynamic in Iraq fundamentally. It could not have occurred unless there were some contacts and intermediaries to peel off those who are tribal leaders, regional leaders, Sunni nationalists, from a more radical Messianic brand of insurgency. Well whether there are those same opportunities in Afghanistan I think should be explored. I can't guarantee that they are and one of the problems that we had and we've historically had, the Russians historically had it, the British historically had it, is our intelligence there is poor and our understanding of the culture is poor. And our understanding of the tribal and clan ties that exist there are complicated. But the Afghans don't see things in the same black and white terms on many of these issues that we legitimately do because we're concerned about our safety and our security. But what we're going to have to do is to have folks on the ground who do develop that understanding, I was very impressed with McKernan, very impressed with a lot of the folks who are there. My impression is that those who have a chance to stay there a little bit longer and develop clear understanding of the formidable complexities are going to achieve a lot more than simply us rotating in folks on a rapid rotation and I think that people on the ground tend to agree with me on that.
I would argue (and I think most Indian analysts would agree) that any idea of "talking to the Taliban" is deeply problematic, particularly from a moral perspective. There is no such thing as a moderate Taliban, at least from a Western feminist and Western human rights perspective, and those voices need to be heard in any US policy decision of this nature. Moreover, a regime dominated by former Taliban in Afghanistan is probably not acceptable to any of Afghanistan's neighbors (except Pakistan) given the reputation of the Taliban for seeking to spread Islamist extremism and a history of atrocities toward minority communities and even foreign diplomats. I would assume that India, Iran, and Russia will not accept any regime dominated by former Taliban or other Pakistani agents, nor would the American people I imagine. Even the Chinese, who are a long standing ally of Pakistan, would probably not agree to a regime dominated by former Taliban types given China's concerns about its Uigher Province. The Taliban are not a legitimate government like Iran. Thus, this idea of dialogue with moderate elements is a non-starter. Unfortunately for the US and NATO, the Taliban needs to be fought and weeded out without alienating the civilian population. This will involve many more troops and an end to the use of unmanned drones.
There are tribal structures which could be used to dampen (through non-compliance) the efficacy of the Taliban insurgency, but that involves talking to Pushtun tribal leaders not the Taliban. The Taliban may be drawn from Pushtun stock, but they are not elder tribal leaders as far as I can tell. The whole idea of a talib-led (i.e. a student-led) movement is a repudiation of tribal and clan based warlordism in the post-Soviet era.
A more serious solution involves playing hardball with Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and recognizing that the Taliban are merely pawns in a proxy war with Iran (and to a lesser extent, India). In this regard, America's polarizing and Israel-centric approach toward Iran needs to be reconsidered. As the US worked with Iran after 9/11 to overthrow the Taliban, cooperation is clearly possible and feasible, particularly if Khatami returns to power. Of course, engagement with Iran raises its own moral issues as Iran is known to have funded its own share of militants. Nevertheless, if a fresh page could somehow be turned with Iran (particularly if Iran turned its own page on sponsoring militants), a triumvirate with America, Iran, and India could foster lasting regional stability by declawing the Pakistani military and its misguided ambition for "strategic depth" in Afghanistan. Of course, the first steps in such a policy would involve much greater pressure on the flow of Saudi money through Pakistan and into Afghanistan. Moreover, the US would need to at least threaten Pakistan with isolation if it does not liquidate all militant outfits on its territory (stronger threats are probably necessary, but not credible given Pakistan's nuclear deterrent).
The fact that the President-elect would even contemplate talking to the Taliban indicates either a lack of historical understanding or an amoral Realist posture (which in this case is unfortunately more naive than strategic).
The Taliban issue is one of those rarities in international relations: it is a situation where moral clarity and strategic thinking reinforce one another. The Kashmir issue is more ordinary: it is a veil, not an underlying cause of regional conflict.
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